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Judgement Against the Nations-Judah and Israel 8/28/19 Pastor Reggie Webb
Consider the lilies of the field… Matt 6:28
Consider the lilies of the field… Matt 6:28
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Judgement Against the Nations-Judah and Israel 8/28/19 Pastor Reggie Webb
thedailylily.com 
One thing that stood out to me in this teaching of Pastor Reggie’s was that he made it very clear that Amos “saw the vision, the revelation from God.” The prophetic message he delivered had nothing to do with his own mind or thoughts…it was God’s revelation. Pastor Reggie shared that Proverbs 29:18 (where there is no vision the people perish) was one of the most misused scriptures because people have interpreted it to mean that we have to have big plans for the future. He said, not true…what that scripture really means is that “where there is no revelation from God, people cast off all restraint.”
We certainly heard from this teaching about the importance of revelation from God and that God’s judgement will come as prophetically delivered to the hearer.
Debi, when I read your comments here from Pastor Reggie’s sermon, I began to think on the lesson we studied from The Book of Judges. ( everyone doing what is right in their own eyes) You mentioned above “we certainly heard from this teaching about the importance of revelation from God”, 🤔 do I understand that we can get messed up in thinking our plans are a revelation from God and they are really a “revelation from ourselves”?(everyone doing what is right in our own eyes)
“Does disaster come to a city, unless the Lord has done it? “For the Lord God does nothing without revealing his secret to his servants the prophets.” Amos 3:6-7 ESV
Debi and Tammy sounds like you have spotted the ongoing trumpet and/or lion’s roar. PR makes a point of hearing a Lion’s roar….I’m stuck there! The Lord hates 7 things. Speaker also makes a point of indefinite numbers of sin seems to never make it one, or does it mean a cluster of sin might just mean sin period?
Tammy writes, “… I began to think on the lesson we studied from The Book of Judges. (everyone doing what is right in their own eyes…” see her post above
PR makes this statement crystal clear in this lesson from Amos. Judgement truly has a life of its own. H gives an illustration that should make all of us keep a mirror close by. When a prophet/teacher speaks of judgement falling on another nation as Amos was proclaiming we might hear preach it bro, great sermon keep it going but when the farmer prophet enters your territory, its mind your own business! Go back to your farming, pig barbecue and cake baking. Old Man Amos what you saw applies to all but me, my, mine, our little denomination, etc
When I listen to this account from the book of Amos in light of the happenings in my own Nation, and Evangelicals surrounding the American Throne I wonder if I find my mind and lips giving service to give it to those nations that are interrupting my way. I with hold from my own print here the shouts, the treatment, the politics, the church that seem to think they (we) have all the truth. Why? Because I’m ashamed of lack of God’s love being beamed through as Christ like behavior. We all go about doing what’s right in our own eyes. OK why not, what else should we do?
Tammy, your connection to Judges, “do I understand that we can get messed up in thinking our plans are a revelation from God and they are really a “revelation from ourselves”?(everyone doing what is right in our own eyes)”, sure makes sense to me.
We were presented with so many examples from Pastor Reggie’s teachings in Judges about the messes they ended up in, and God allowing it because they didn’t seek His Mind on matters; whereas Amos delivered the revelation from God, not his own mind.
Sara, you commented above, “Speaker also makes a point of indefinite numbers of sin seems to never make it one, or does it mean a cluster of sin might just mean sin period?”
When Pastor Reggie spoke about Syria/Damascus, he alluded that they had done multiplied tortuous acts against the three tribes east of the Jordan, half-Manasseh, Reuben and Gad. Amos 1:3 says they sinned “again and again”. And that indictment, “have sinned again and again” is repeated against each surrounding nation and then finally against Judah and Israel.
One definition I found for indefinite was ‘unrestricted.’ Seems like sinning ‘again and again’ is unrestricted and says, “might just mean sin period”.
Reviewing the comments
above makes one tremble.
1. Debi pointing out from PR that people misquoting Proverbs 29 :11.
2. Tammy calling to our remembrance from Judges, everyone doing what is right in his own eye.
3. Sara all of us should keep a mirror close by. (Summarized)When judgement from God spoken against another nation we might hear preach it bro, great sermon keep it going.
4. Debi reminds us from PR study of Judges about Israel’s mess ups because they didn’t seek God.
Debi says seems like sinning again and again might just be sin period.
Sin, eyesight and mind set on doing things our sinful way, pridefully tooting to others how great we are and your not, plugging up ears to God’s revelation, and continuing to walk in our way in sin , not seeing as in a mirror ourselves who continue in mess ups (sin), we will see the next Roar of the Lion of Judah. In Amos PR we might not want the mirror held too close as we just may fall on our faces before that great Lion of Judah.
Rena, Nice summary From comments to remind us that these lessons are packed to zipper bulging with God’s Work ongoing though out the Universe. The zipper bulge reminds me of a great promise that can never, ever be broken; Hebrews 13:8 KJV “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. 9) Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.”
I was talking yesterday to a youngest Christian Grandfather as he shared how God changed his life drastically when he whole heartedly gave his life to God. He said men preached the gospel and people like him believed and changed. Now we go to church and hear no gospel. I thought about his conversation and agreed yes the gospel is just the white pop in the packaging if even that. Not even the Box, not the Gift of Cross, blood and thorns, not death, resurrection and the power that comes from that gift of Death for Life.
Wonder why Church people begin to think they should sink file the yesterday, eat the fresh meat of today, and LOL on the tomorrow of forever?